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		<title>By: Patty Romanowski Bashe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patty Romanowski Bashe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 02:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can find all the Col-erase individual colors at Misterart.com (not sure of the spelling; you can google it). My favorites: violet, tuscan red, purple, indigo blue.

Even though I&#039;m author and do copy editing on the side still, these pencils are also great for highlighting my textbooks. 

Does anyone know where to find nonrepro blue highlighter markers? A publisher I work for often likes this for trailing notes. The nonrepro pencils don&#039;t last long enough.

Thank you, Patty]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can find all the Col-erase individual colors at Misterart.com (not sure of the spelling; you can google it). My favorites: violet, tuscan red, purple, indigo blue.</p>
<p>Even though I&#8217;m author and do copy editing on the side still, these pencils are also great for highlighting my textbooks. </p>
<p>Does anyone know where to find nonrepro blue highlighter markers? A publisher I work for often likes this for trailing notes. The nonrepro pencils don&#8217;t last long enough.</p>
<p>Thank you, Patty</p>
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		<title>By: Joy Freeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joy Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I can, I prefer to use an extra-fine point roller-ball pen with green ink, using white-out if necessary (I love the new Liquid Paper bottles with caps that do double-duty as both brushes or pens). When I was first trained as an in-house production editor, ink was the only thing accepted by my employer because of its superiority in copying, and now I&#039;m spoiled. 

Of course, some publishers and/or projects require pencil, and in those cases I use Col-Erase Carmine Red, Green, Purple and/or Tuscan Red. I would like to find Violet, but it seems it&#039;s only available in the assorted color sets now. Recently I won an eBay auction for a dozen Venus Col-Erase Carmine Red pencils, presumably from before they were bought by Sanford and obviously a different formula (that or aging the pencils does something to the &quot;leads&quot;). They&#039;re wonderful! They&#039;re both soft enough to erase well and hard enough to hold a point. Sweet! I&#039;ll be disappointed when they&#039;re gone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I can, I prefer to use an extra-fine point roller-ball pen with green ink, using white-out if necessary (I love the new Liquid Paper bottles with caps that do double-duty as both brushes or pens). When I was first trained as an in-house production editor, ink was the only thing accepted by my employer because of its superiority in copying, and now I&#8217;m spoiled. </p>
<p>Of course, some publishers and/or projects require pencil, and in those cases I use Col-Erase Carmine Red, Green, Purple and/or Tuscan Red. I would like to find Violet, but it seems it&#8217;s only available in the assorted color sets now. Recently I won an eBay auction for a dozen Venus Col-Erase Carmine Red pencils, presumably from before they were bought by Sanford and obviously a different formula (that or aging the pencils does something to the &#8220;leads&#8221;). They&#8217;re wonderful! They&#8217;re both soft enough to erase well and hard enough to hold a point. Sweet! I&#8217;ll be disappointed when they&#8217;re gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Terra LeMay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terra LeMay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My husband is not a copy editor. (He&#039;s a tattoo artist.)  But he uses colored pencils to do layouts for designs.  Sometimes he prefers non-photocopy colors, but almost as often he wants to be able to copy the layout drawing so he can trace over it on a light box to make linework for a stencil.  Too much information...  Let me get to the point.

He has a lot of experience with different brands of colored pencils and knows whether or not they erase and how well.  I&#039;ll try to remember to ask him what he&#039;s using now.  I know for a while he used Col-erase red.  He hated the Ticonderogas too.  I know.  I bought him a bunch by mistake once, and we still have them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband is not a copy editor. (He&#8217;s a tattoo artist.)  But he uses colored pencils to do layouts for designs.  Sometimes he prefers non-photocopy colors, but almost as often he wants to be able to copy the layout drawing so he can trace over it on a light box to make linework for a stencil.  Too much information&#8230;  Let me get to the point.</p>
<p>He has a lot of experience with different brands of colored pencils and knows whether or not they erase and how well.  I&#8217;ll try to remember to ask him what he&#8217;s using now.  I know for a while he used Col-erase red.  He hated the Ticonderogas too.  I know.  I bought him a bunch by mistake once, and we still have them.</p>
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		<title>By: Deanna Hoak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deanna Hoak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 12:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I tested a lot of colors for copying ability back when I was at Harcourt, and Col-Erase Indigo Blue came out better than anything except brown. I used it for years, but finally gave up on it because I got sick of production editors insisting (after they got the manuscript back but before they tried to copy it) that I shouldn&#039;t have used it because it wouldn&#039;t copy. (It always did, of course, and quite well, but I got tired of going through it.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tested a lot of colors for copying ability back when I was at Harcourt, and Col-Erase Indigo Blue came out better than anything except brown. I used it for years, but finally gave up on it because I got sick of production editors insisting (after they got the manuscript back but before they tried to copy it) that I shouldn&#8217;t have used it because it wouldn&#8217;t copy. (It always did, of course, and quite well, but I got tired of going through it.)</p>
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		<title>By: sylvia_rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>sylvia_rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 12:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a fascinating discussion! Who knew?

Would a set of Laurentians work? Or do those not erase?

When I have to edit on paper, I just use a plain old mechanical pencil with a 5mm lead, and of course a honking great Staedtler eraser. That situation is pretty rare, however.

In the days before Acrobat Pro, I used to have to proofread on paper, marking in three colours: red for copy-editing errors, blue for typesetter errors, green for editor/author alts. It was for this reason that I discovered the wonder that is the Pilot Hi-Tecpoint V5; but what I really needed was some kind of magical erasable ink...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a fascinating discussion! Who knew?</p>
<p>Would a set of Laurentians work? Or do those not erase?</p>
<p>When I have to edit on paper, I just use a plain old mechanical pencil with a 5mm lead, and of course a honking great Staedtler eraser. That situation is pretty rare, however.</p>
<p>In the days before Acrobat Pro, I used to have to proofread on paper, marking in three colours: red for copy-editing errors, blue for typesetter errors, green for editor/author alts. It was for this reason that I discovered the wonder that is the Pilot Hi-Tecpoint V5; but what I really needed was some kind of magical erasable ink&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eliani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eliani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 06:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I went on a crazy spree years ago when Sanford was threatening to (and briefly did) discontinue most of their individual Col-Erase colors. So I will probably never lack for editing pencils as long as I live.

Tuscan Red: My all-time favorite. Perfect.
Violet: I loved this color, even though it can look blackish. Erased well enough. I can&#039;t find boxes of it anywhere.
Purple: When it&#039;s soft, it&#039;s excellent. Have run into harder and softer batches.
Carmine Red: Neck and neck with Purple, but because I&#039;ve rarely run into a hard batch.
Rose: Too hard. Don&#039;t bother.
Brown: Pretty nice, but can be hard to erase.
Blue: Can be fine, but this might not photocopy, so avoid.
Indigo Blue: Same as Brown, even harder to erase, though.
Green: Could be softer. Doesn&#039;t erase so well.
Lavender: Pretty, erases, but not as soft as Purple.
Orange: Lovely and soft, but way too hard to see.
Vermilion: Hard to erase, and looks odd to me.
Grass Green: Hard to see, but soft.


I agree that the colored leads for mechanical pencils are crap. ALSO don&#039;t buy Prismacolor Verithin pencils with erasers. I had to white-out and switch their Crimson Red because it just would not erase and was so dark.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went on a crazy spree years ago when Sanford was threatening to (and briefly did) discontinue most of their individual Col-Erase colors. So I will probably never lack for editing pencils as long as I live.</p>
<p>Tuscan Red: My all-time favorite. Perfect.<br />
Violet: I loved this color, even though it can look blackish. Erased well enough. I can&#8217;t find boxes of it anywhere.<br />
Purple: When it&#8217;s soft, it&#8217;s excellent. Have run into harder and softer batches.<br />
Carmine Red: Neck and neck with Purple, but because I&#8217;ve rarely run into a hard batch.<br />
Rose: Too hard. Don&#8217;t bother.<br />
Brown: Pretty nice, but can be hard to erase.<br />
Blue: Can be fine, but this might not photocopy, so avoid.<br />
Indigo Blue: Same as Brown, even harder to erase, though.<br />
Green: Could be softer. Doesn&#8217;t erase so well.<br />
Lavender: Pretty, erases, but not as soft as Purple.<br />
Orange: Lovely and soft, but way too hard to see.<br />
Vermilion: Hard to erase, and looks odd to me.<br />
Grass Green: Hard to see, but soft.</p>
<p>I agree that the colored leads for mechanical pencils are crap. ALSO don&#8217;t buy Prismacolor Verithin pencils with erasers. I had to white-out and switch their Crimson Red because it just would not erase and was so dark.</p>
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		<title>By: editgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>editgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 02:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a fan of the Col-Erase in Carmine. I sharpen them a LOT to keep a sharp point, and they really erase far better than any other colored pencil I&#039;ve tried.

I made the mistake of getting red lead for my Pentel mechanical pencil... don&#039;t waste your money on that either! Hard to get the mark to show up, so brittle it breaks easily, and then it&#039;s impossible to erase!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a fan of the Col-Erase in Carmine. I sharpen them a LOT to keep a sharp point, and they really erase far better than any other colored pencil I&#8217;ve tried.</p>
<p>I made the mistake of getting red lead for my Pentel mechanical pencil&#8230; don&#8217;t waste your money on that either! Hard to get the mark to show up, so brittle it breaks easily, and then it&#8217;s impossible to erase!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Legault</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Legault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 02:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Col-erase all the way for me, though I wish they were more erasable.

I do have some Crayola colored pencils I got at Duane Reade when I was in a bind and had left the house without a red pencil. They&#039;re too soft to hold a good point, but I can make do with them in a pinch. But one great thing about them is that they&#039;re almost totally erasable. If you&#039;re copy editing a book where you think you might rethink some decisions, but aren&#039;t making a whole lot of marks, they might be the ticket.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Col-erase all the way for me, though I wish they were more erasable.</p>
<p>I do have some Crayola colored pencils I got at Duane Reade when I was in a bind and had left the house without a red pencil. They&#8217;re too soft to hold a good point, but I can make do with them in a pinch. But one great thing about them is that they&#8217;re almost totally erasable. If you&#8217;re copy editing a book where you think you might rethink some decisions, but aren&#8217;t making a whole lot of marks, they might be the ticket.</p>
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